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« on: August 08, 2011, 07:23:56 AM »

I stopped into a thrift on my lunch hour a couple of weeks ago, and was browsing through the glassware, when my eye fell on a small wine or brandy glass with a strangely thick stem.  To be honest, my first thought was that it was plastic, because the stem had a matte, sort of frosted finish.  But I picked it up, and realized that it was glass, and that the bowl was very delicate, with a ground rim. The stem was molded with a sort of stylized pattern of grapes and vines.  And as one usually does with a piece of glass, I turned it over to see if there were any markings.  What I saw was: R. Lalique, France.  My heart skipped a beat.   As my eyes moved down the shelf, I spotted four more of the small glasses, and two of a larger size (more of a sherbet or champagne glass.)  I carefully gathered them up (not a chip among them) and went to the cashier.

Now, there are a lot of Lalique fakes out there, but that's usually higher-ticket items - vases and other art glass pieces, rather than something more utilitarian like stemware.  And if it turned out these were fakes - well, that's a chance you take, isn't it?  There's also lots of documentation of the characteristics of  real Lalique marks, which changed over time, of course, and are very helpful in dating a piece.  For instance, "R. Lalique" would date prior to Rene Lalique's death in 1945 - and "R. Lalique" pieces fetch a good deal more than items manufactured later (as I understand it, the company dropped the "R" from their marks when their founder died.)

In the past two weeks I have spent a fair amount of time in the library and online, searching for an ID on the pattern of these glasses - I found another pattern in a very similar shape, with a similarly thick stem, which added to my growing certainty that they were indeed pre-1945 Lalique. 

Over the weekend I finally got an ID - the pattern is called "Ricquewihr" (or "Riquewihr", which is a medieval town in the Alsace region, where Lalique's factory was [is?] located); the pattern was introduced in 1925 and made at least into the 1930s sometime. 

Click on this link to see a pair of madera glasses in the same pattern (the five smaller glasses may be the same size as these - I haven't measured them yet to be sure.) http://www.renelaliqueglass.com/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/2900?opendocument&part=10 (the Riquewihr glasses are about 3/4 of the way down the page.)
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 08:14:25 AM »

Those are nice, they have a modern look to them, good job!  I haven't been finding much lately at thrifts, but I still stop in because you never know.  Hope you enjoy the glasses!
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2011, 01:41:40 PM »

That's a serious score.

Well done.  You rock. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 12:52:01 PM »

HOLY MOLY!!

WHAT a score!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you keeping them, or do you plan to sell them?

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 02:49:13 PM »

I didn't even notice the price tag on that link you posted, that is quite impressive.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 05:28:27 AM »

As a total novice on art glass, I'd have passed them up.
They are cute though..

Keeping or selling?
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2011, 05:38:01 AM »

WOW!!!!!!! How awesome!

My husband always jokes to me when I leave for garage sales "Go find your Lalique!"....after a similar story that my dad had finding a Lalique.

Good for you!  Those are the stories that keep us alive!

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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2011, 08:16:02 AM »

I am *so* not a Lalique kind of gal - I use plastic drinking glasses in my house - so there's no way I'm keeping these for myself, except in photos.  It would just kill me if I broke one. 

I'm in touch with a Lalique expert to have them authenticated, after which I need to figure out how to get them to a new home.  Not Ebay!  There's an auction house near me that deals in higher-ticket items (complete with glossy printed catalog and fancy online interactive tools), and that may be the route I take - they specialize in American antiques, but may periodically do a sale focusing on European pieces.

Re: the very nice price on the madeira glasses I linked to: that seller is apparently a known quantity in high-end glass like Lalique, so they can probably command higher $$ based on track record.  I wouldn't expect to sell them for that much if I were doing it myself, but pretty much no matter what I get for them it's going to be a huge markup over what I paid.

I'll keep you posted!  I have taken encouragement from reading stories elsewhere of unexpected thrifted treasures, and it's really nice to be the teller of such a tale!
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2011, 10:37:10 PM »

Great great Score!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats.
Those are the kind of stories that keep me hunting.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2011, 08:58:40 AM »

So, I met with the folks from the auction house and have consigned my Lalique stems for auction - they weren't sure whether the auction scheduled for the 1st Fri. of October was already full, but if they don't go then, they'll be in the Dec. 2 sale.   Conservative pre-auction estimate: $600-800 for the lot.  I'm pretty happy.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2011, 11:10:01 AM »

 Conservative pre-auction estimate: $600-800 for the lot.  I'm pretty happy.

Gee - ya think?  That's great leverage.  Again, well done. 
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2011, 03:03:24 PM »

I think we're all agreed that was a totally AWESOME score.

Now you must must MUST tell us what they sell for when they sell!!

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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 01:03:29 PM »

Congratulations!  Please keep us posted. 
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2011, 09:18:58 PM »

I have been on a roll lately, found a pair of Frye boots in my size for $25.  Found a Good Leather J.A. Dubow A-2 Flight Jacket for $80, new would be $975.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2011, 09:40:29 PM »

I have been on a roll lately, found a pair of Frye boots in my size for $25.  Found a Good Leather J.A. Dubow A-2 Flight Jacket for $80, new would be $975.

Nicey Nice - KEEP ROLLING.
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